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add to favorites 1992 Saturn SC Conversion $ 5,000.00
For Sale is my 1992 Saturn SC conversion. It does run as it sits, but I will be brutally honest in that it would require a lot of work to get it to a daily driver status. I've gotten too busy with a career and just do not have the time to invest into this project any longer. I have owned this car since around 2002 when I started converting it. The good: 1)The body was painted about five years ago with PPG base coat clear coat paint in a much later Saturn Color called "Fine Sublime Green". This color was used on the Saturn Vue and Ion Redline series cars. It has 80 parts pearl in the base coat where typical pearl colors have 20-30 parts. It shows really well. The lower part of the car is painted in a color called Silver Nickel, also a later Saturn color. The car was originally red with a silver lower color. All body panels were removed during the re-paint (except the roof which was glued on) and all Saturn frames are painted black so you will find no evidence of the re-paint. This car was an Arizona and Las Vegas car so there is no rust on it whatsoever. 2) 9" Advanced DC motor with long tail shaft works great. This has been a very dependable motor and is mated to the stock 5 speed transmission. The clutch was replaced at the time of conversion, but it simply can't hold back all the torque the motor can produce. 3) Otmar built Zilla 1K HV model. This will handle up to 300V. Presently it is set to deliver 170V maximum to the motor so the car has an honest 170kw power capability, which again is more than the drive train can realistically handle considering the car had about a 90hp engine in 1992. This could produce up to 300kw. It did fail on me once where the car completely died and wouldn't re-start. This was due to a DC/DC converter in the Zilla itself that powers some of the logic. This was a small, but known failure on these and the Zilla was repaired with an updated DC/DC design so that part should be reliable. While I had it sent out I also sent out the Hairball and had it converted to a HEPI version so I could use the hall effect pedal and installed a Toyota hall effect pedal in the car. This was a huge improvement over a throttle potentiometer. I've had the car up to 100mph seeing what it could do. 4) Battery pack consists of 80x GBS LFMP 100Ah cells (LiFeMnPO4). They are date coded 2011, but I believe the pack has around 50 to 60Ah left in it. I did test a few cells last year at 60Ah. There are four weak cells in the pack and the car comes with four replacement cells. Full disclosure, I work at Elite Power Solutions which is the North American distributor for these batteries and this pack was an engineering set of cells that was used in a less than forgiving situation initially, but I believe it's still a very usable pack. This is a rather efficient car actually and I have been able to achieve sub 200 Wh/Mi energy economy figures based on the Link 10 meter's readings. The BMS that is presently installed does not fully function and would need to be replaced. 5) Has a Manzanita Micro PFC30 batter charger and can charge at about 5.5kw for fast recharges on 240V or at reduced power on 120V.. The control board had an issue on this charger a number of years ago and was repaired by Manzanita Micro at the time. It's fully functional. 6) Other components - Iota 55A power supply as a DC/DC converter. Has a 1000A shunt which was originally connected to a Link 10 meter mounted on the A-pillar. It is presently disconnected so the shunt could be used with the BMS. Small liquid cooling system for the Zilla, has a small leak I never could locate. The pump is from some automotive turbo cooling application and is overkill for the application. Kenwood stereo and speakers. The not so good: - The interior is all original and looks like the interior of a 25 year old car. It is serviceable, but would need reupholstered to be in good condition. There isn't any terrible odor however. The stupid automatic seat belts by some miracle do indeed still work as do the pop up headlights however! The car has light weight alloy Kosei K1-TS 15" wheels, the tires have good tread, but they are approaching six years of age and are starting to weather crack. The tires need to be replaced to be safe. No functioning HVAC. I simply never got around to making the AC or heat work. The components are there under the dash, but the under hood components have been lost over time. No power steering or power brakes. I just strong arm and strong foot the car and it's been fine, even when it was a lead acid car. The calipers were rebuilt and brake hoses replaced during the conversion process in order to minimize drag. I could never get the motor mounts and front suspension quite right on this car. You can't take a speed bump very fast in this car as it causes the whole drive train to jerk around a bit. The front suspension is basically stock. The rear springs were custom built with higher rate springs from Coil Spring Specialties and with the lead to lithium conversion the car does sit a bit high in the back as it sits. The ride is overall good through. Lastly, as a full disclosure, it has a gremlin I just cannot get out of the car no matter what I've done. From day one the Zilla would throw an occasional contactor resistance high error and shut down the car. I originally had used a used old Albright contactor so I suspected it was at fault, but after changing to a Tyco EV200 contactor the problem still persists. It's completely random too. Most of the time cycling the key off and back on will clear the problem. Conclusion: Again, this car does run and drive. It's even currently registered and insured. I have a clean Arizona title for the car along with a folder of receipts from the build. I suspect this would be best suited to be a parts car for someone doing a conversion, but I just can't bring myself to dismantle it myself. Asking $5,000 OBO. Rick (602)309-1966 or ricksuiter "at" I'll get some updated pictures soon, the ones here are from when it was originally converted with lead acid batteries.
add to favorites Electric Gizmo Car For Sale - $5500(Yorkville IL.) $ 5,500.00
PRICE LOWERED FROM $6700 to $5500 on August 2017! See an HD video I made of this amazing all electric 3 wheeled auto cycle called the "Gizmo". Illinois and many other states have changed the laws, now anyone with a normal driver's license can drive this vehicle! I have babied this auto cycle with garage kept, minimal use, and no rain driving only 2568 original miles. Purchased vehicle new (only one owner) in 2003 from NEVCO for $12,850. I have made excellent mechanical mods to the vehicle to increase the driver comfort and the safety. It uses 4 Trojan T1275 lead acid batteries with a Zivan charger. The controller is a Sevcon driving a separately excited DC brushed motor (originally made by D&D Motor Systems, Inc. Syracuse, NY.) The motor was rebuilt in 2016 (rebalanced and the contacts (armature) redone with new carbon brushes and all new end cap ball bearings) to perfection by as local company called Master Motor Rebuilders in Addison Illinois. I have re-installed the new motor and tested the vehicle, it worked perfectly. I made a new custom water road motor shield (aluminum with outer vinyl) which surrounds the entire motor armature area. This is Gizmo #34, and it is part of a 7 unit production on this vehicle with the cool hand operated joystick controls. Body is in mint condition also, as well as the interior and the seat. Three brand new Cooper tires are installed with custom detailed painted electric graphics hubcaps. Batteries are still working great over 20 miles range @ 38 psi tires, 86 degrees, 180 LB driver, over very hilly streets of Yorkville IL. Brand new Gizmo spec was 25 miles range. This is the ONLY Gizmo with a two towing plates in the front (see picture), and I have a tow bar (included) set up to match the two front bushings. This is the only Gizmo made with Custom Welded steel plates added to the steering tubes for extra strength. Other mods include fancy electric symbol wheel covers. Battery box cover lifts using hinges to prevent ANY acid gasses during charging to corrode the terminals, (they looks as new as the day they were installed). Professional electronic desulfator across all four lead acid batteries since install. Forward /reverse switch right at driver's left hand position, no need to use power key anymore, which was difficult to reach. Seat has 3M 1/2 " rubber added for extra seating comfort. Automatic seat "up" holder to allow access to the battery box. Two custom aluminum with rubber foot rests installed in front bottom cabin. Custom change/map/pen holder on right side cabin. The electronics and fuse side areas have been covered with a custom vinyl cover since 2003. A 12 volt cigarette lighter has been added on the right side cabin area. I installed 2 additional matching LED running side lights for safety. Under the seat is a custom glove box, I also added a dash map light with a switch. Custom non-slip cover on battery box cover to keep groceries from moving. Brakes have minimal wear, I did minimal braking, and the drive belt looks like new. Charger updated in 2015 (pro company in California) with latest firmware to charge batteries automatically every 7 days. Included is the full laminated electronic wiring schematic (4' by 2' size) of this whole vehicle!

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